Weekly call about Karrot development 2019

[bruno]

Date: 2019-09-17 12:30 (UTC+2)
Facilitator: Bruno
Participants: Bruno, Janina, Tilmann

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• set up postal.karrot.world and replace SparkPost with it (Tilmann)
• split VISION.md into vision and roadmap part and merged it (Tilmann, Janina)
• trust graph analysis (John, Tilmann)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• make some statistics about which kind of emails get sent out frequently and which notification settings are enabled (Tilmann)
• go through our hypotheses and talk with John; also check his research scripts (Tilmann)
• document current email setup (Tilmann)
• progress with remaining Quasar upgrade bugs (Tilmann)
• ask some people in Solikyl why and how they use the trust system (Bruno)

3. Discussion

project-related topics that you’d like to discuss with other participants. Positions and outcomes should be noted down

• There is some good data about trust but no hypothesis was used to analyse it. Some of the ideas we discussed:
  • People who are more active in Karrot (and in the physical world) get more trust?
  • Are people with lots of trust anxious if people with less trust get the same rights as them?
  • Are people with lots of trust more likely to receive even more trust, especially from newcomers?
  • Reciprocity is strong: those who give trust expect trust back, and those who get trust feel they should give it back?
• Invite by e-mail vs application
  • it should be more visible if the person was invited by e-mail or applied to the group. But not really many people use the invitation feature (mostly when starting a group?)

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-09-24 12:30 (UTC+2)
Next facilitator: Janina

[tiltec]

Next call 2019-09-24T10:30:00Z at https://whereby.com/karrot

Pad at https://codi.kanthaus.online/karrot-weekly?edit

[djahnie]

Date: 2019-09-24 12:30 (UTC+2)
Facilitator: Janina
Participants: Sandro, Tilmann, Janina, Nick, Bruno

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• discussed trust data analysis with John (Tilmann)
• investigated email webhook security (Tilmann)
• investigated failed email deliveries (Tilmann)
• started fixing remaining Quasar bugs (Tilmann)
• checked with a few people in my group how they use the trust system (Bruno)
• made statistics about which kind of emails get sent out frequently and which notification settings are enabled how often: https://grafana.yunity.org/d/WIqFtQ6ik/emails?orgId=3 + https://grafana.yunity.org/d/s0bumlUmz/groups?orgId=3 (Tilmann)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• publish essentials of conversation with John (Tilmann)
• implement webhook security, document current email setup (Tilmann)
• progress with remaining Quasar upgrade bugs (Tilmann)
• backend walkthrough call (Tilmann, Sandro)
• ask a few more how they use the trust system and ask about notifications (Bruno)

3. Discussion

project-related topics that you’d like to discuss with other participants. Positions and outcomes should be noted down

• Sandro’s masters thesis
  • he really likes django and has worked with python a lot over the last years
  • would be great if he could find something to contribute to karrot because he finds it useful
  • doesn’t have to be about the trust system
  • hopefully Karrot is suitable for a CS masters program since it’s not super challenging from a technical POV
  • UX/UI stuff is tricky and uni Ulm apparently has a focus on psychology as well, but those things are painful…
  • Sandro would like to have a walkthrough for the backend to know better what he could work on
  • Bruno suggests public places for Sandro to work on - the detailed concept is still unclear

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-10-01 12:30 (UTC+2)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-10-01 12:30 (UTC+2)
Facilitator: Tilmann
Participants: Bruno, Nick, Janina, Tilmann

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• did a walkthrough with Sandro (Tilmann)
• implement webhook authentication (Tilmann)
• write blog post about email setup (Tilmann)
• did a little bit of fixing remaining UI bugs (Tilmann)
• talked to Naomi about foodsaving in Stockholm and people’s perception of Karrot there (Bruno)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• publish essentials of conversation with John (Tilmann)
• progress with remaining Quasar upgrade bugs (Tilmann)
• progress with history export backend (Tilmann)
• check if we can have a “Month of Karrot” in January at Kanthaus (Tilmann)

3. Discussion

project-related topics that you’d like to discuss with other participants. Positions and outcomes should be noted down

• Karrot apparently has problems on some Apple devices, how to improve?
  • could buy some second-hand Mac or iPhone
  • maybe write a post in the community forum if somebody knows an interested developer with Mac
  • could use BrowserStack or Saucelabs to test Karrot in virtual iPhones
• How to use “Karrot money”?
  • Nick wants to work out some ideas on how to use it, based on solidarity

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-10-08 19:00 (UTC+2)
Next facilitator: Bruno

[bruno]

Date: 2019-10-08 19:00 (UTC+2)
Facilitator: Bruno
Participants: Bruno, Sandro, Tilmann, Janina, Nick

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• fix a lot of remaining bugs and did a release (Tilmann)
• did a phone call with Jan from Czech Republic about starting foodsaving and software ideas (Tilmann, Janina)
• responded to some emails and feedback in the forum (Tilmann)
• tried to draft something about trust and contacted Uni people about master thesis (Sandro)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• get into contact with developer in Gothenburg and invite for meeting (Bruno)
• write an issue about pickups with duration still being visible (Bruno)
• progress with history export backend (Tilmann)
• publish essentials of research conversation with John (Tilmann)

3. Discussion

project-related topics that you’d like to discuss with other participants. Positions and outcomes should be noted down

• Sandro’s proposal about the trust system and other possible topics on his master thesis and ways to contribute to Karrot
• funding from Sweden (Vinnova) on civic tech. Something to check out
• pickups with end time visible until they end (Bruno will write an issue on that)
• ideas from Belgium: Ideas from Leuven, Belgium
• wondering about the effects and workings of the French law on food waste
• Month of Karrot in January at Kanthaus. Confirmed!

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-10-14 12:30 (UTC+2)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[Disa]

Several people in Bikekitchen Gothenburg have told me they would want to be able to upload pictures to the chats in karrot, and perhaps would use it more if it was possible.

[tiltec]

Sure! I added a new issue about it here: https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1793
By the way, it is already possible to reference images in all conversations using the Markdown syntax ![](https://link.to/image.jpg), but you need to host it using another service with https.

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-10-14 12:30 (UTC+2)
Facilitator: Tilmann
Participants: Sandro, Janina, Tilmann, Nick, Bruno

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• wrote a lot in the forum and a bit in Slack (Tilmann)
• fixed backend translations (Tilmann)
• merged history export backend (Tilmann)
  • https://dev.karrot.world/api/history/export/?type=PICKUP_JOIN&date_before=2019-01-01T00:00
• wrote an issue about pickups with duration still being visible (Bruno)
  • https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1789
• use group logo for email header image (Nick)
• chatted to Naomi about all things food saving (Nick)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• put foodsharing international FAQ somewhere (Janina)
• replace international email on https://foodsharing.de/team (Janina)
• look through https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/milestone/14 and personal TODO list for useful small tasks (Tilmann)
• mark more tasks as starter tasks (Tilmann)
• Karrotrust: Structuring feedback, consult karrot dev team and try to work on a better concept. (Sandro)
• remind the friend again to give developer’s contact in Gothenburg (Bruno)

3. Discussion

• think about a more streamlined foodsaving worldwide onboarding process
  • make it more welcoming for people who are looking for “foodsharing”
  • merge resources (foodsaving.world, foodsaving.today, community forum, foodsharing.de international working group)
  • design a step-by-step process, e.g.
    1. join community forum
    2. create Karrot group
    3. gather some people
    4. save food!
    5. save all other stuff
• idea: make a Karrot promontional video with contributions from all groups
  • things like “We’re saving food in Warszawa with Karrot”
• idea: a monthly foodsaving worldwide call; more people might be interested than in a Karrot call

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-10-21 12:30 (UTC+2)
Next facilitator: Bruno/Nick?

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-10-21 12:30 (UTC+2)
Facilitator: ?
Participants: Nick, Tilmann, Sandrolo, Bruno

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• started UI for “sharing offers” feature (Nick)
• chatted a bit with Sandro about trust and voting, etc (Nick)
• went through all issues on Github, closing/commenting some (Tilmann)
• change statistics calculation (Tilmann)
• fix & speed up history export (Tilmann)
• added some more backend stats, e.g about failed logins (Tilmann)
• we now get a notification in #karrot-world-admin if somebody creates a new group (Tilmann)
• Reading papers, talking to different people about trust, roles and group decisions (Sandro)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• Coming up with more concrete proposals for Master Thesis implementation that can fit Karrot (Sandro)
• Getting feedback from group users about trust feature usage (and thresholds etc.) (Sandro)
• Add filters to history lists https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1520 (Tilmann)

3. Discussion

• talked a lot about trust, roles and group decisions

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-11-04, 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-11-04 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Tilmann
Participants: Sandro, Tilmann, Janina, Bruno, Nick, Robin

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• a bit more polish on frontend for offers https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/pull/1799 (nick)
• did first draft of offers backend https://github.com/yunity/karrot-backend/pull/855 (nick)
• fixed various smaller and bigger bugs (Tilmann)
• small testing of Karrot, active on forum (Bruno)
• Meeting Robin and thinking about requirements and concerns (Sandro)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• continue with history list filters https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1520 (Tilmann)
• maybe start with automatically marking wall messages as read https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1534 (Tilmann)
• read through Sandro’s pad and fill out “further requirements” section (Tilmann, nick)
• continue with offers implementation (nick)
• follow up Nick’s work (Bruno)

3. Discussion

• solidarity payments model? (nick)
  • Nick has some drafts that he wants to refine before releasing; he presented them and asked for feedback
  • positive feedback from Bruno, Tilmann and Janina
• crowdfunding? (Bruno)
• switch from whereby.com to jitsi? (Tilmann)

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-11-11 12:30 (UTC+1) on https://meet.jit.si/karrot
Next facilitator: Nick

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-11-11 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Bruno
Participants: Bruno, Tilmann, Janina, Sandro, Nick

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• some small dependency upgrades, but not much focus time lately (Tilmann)
• talked with Nick about the unused agreements feature (Tilmann)
• Talked with Robin about his wish to include trigger abstraction into master thesis (Sandro)
• Progressed a bit with offers, some backend tests (nick)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• Start implementation for Master Thesis (Sandro)
• continue with history list filters (Tilmann)
• refine date format in history CSV export (Tilmann)
• continue on offers, focused on getting backend merged (nick)

3. Discussion

• would be good to improve switching between groups (Bruno)
• payday call scheduled at last friday of the month. first call 2019-11-29 12:30 (UTC+1)

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-11-18 12:30 (UTC+1) on https://meet.jit.si/karrot
Next facilitator: Nick

[nicksellen]

Date: 2019-11-18 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Nick
Participants: Nick, Sandro, Bruno, Tilmann, Janina

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• started implementing karmantra (Master Thesis) - no real functionality yet (Sandro)
• got offers backend merged (Nick)
• progressed offers frontend (Nick)
• did not read through Sandros docs again, ooops (Nick)
• reviewed, merged and released two Pull Requests: address autocomplete and message grouping (Tilmann)
• uploaded very early draft PR for history list filters (Tilmann)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• start implementing functionality for karmantra (Sandro)
• offers backend/frontend small finishing bits (Nick)
• continue history list filters, add date filters (Tilmann)
• look at backend error: https://sentry.io/share/issue/75c07c556ff94423ab4d5929d53a3b45/ (Tilmann)

3. Discussion

• [Nick] idea about extending group wall with other activities that users can react/comment on
• long waffly conversation about foodsharing

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-11-25 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-11-25 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Tilmann
Participants: Bruno, Tilmann, Nick, Janina, (Mika)

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• talked to the Toy Library about them adopting Karrot (Bruno)
• Did some initial programming for karmantra (Sandro)
  • https://gitlab.klips-ulm.de/external-projects/self-managed-roles
• linting for style sheets in karrot-frontend (Nick)
• progressed on offers frontend/backend (Nick)
• cycled to Kanthaus in misty november (Nick)
• left some comments on message drafts PR https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/pull/1891 (Tilmann)
• started adding date filters to history lists (Tilmann)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• Get deeper and start using a test framework for karmantra (Sandro)
• push to get offer reviewed/merged (Nick)
• feedback on Sandro codi document and/or general comments on git repo (Nick)
  • https://codi.kanthaus.online/trustrolesproposal?view
• money meeting on Friday
• test the speed of Karrot, where it is slow (bruno)

3. Discussion

• some complaints about Karrot being slow
• foodsharing stockholm blog: https://foodsharingstockholm.noblogs.org/
• foodsharing Borås article published: https://foodsaving.today/en/blog/2019/11/17/foodsharing-boras
• meta: merge “last week review” and “up this week”?
  • let’s continue to merge it in the call to have a more fluid conversation, but let’s keep it separate in the pad

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-12-02 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Bruno

[tiltec]

Jitsi seems to have problems, let’s use https://whereby.com/karrot today! @sandrolo

[bruno]

Date: 2019-12-02 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Bruno
Participants: Tilmann, Janina, Bruno

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• reviewed and merged offers frontend to dev (Nick, Tilmann)
• looked into performance issues and made some preliminary improvements (Nick, Tilmann)
• collected performance-related topics in meta-issue https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1914 (Nick, Tilmann)
• did some unsystematic testing of speed (Bruno)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• ask around for iPhone to use for testing (Tilmann)
• unbreak design, probably from quasar update (Tilmann)
• add link to community forum and weekly call to karrot-frontend readme (Tilmann)
• open an issue about reply by e-mails going into the wall instead of a thread (bruno)
• test again if I get an e-mail notification for an offer I created and write on the forum (Bruno)

3. Discussion

• activate offers on groups 10 57 68 and 71
• update about funding possibilities in Gothenburg
• talk about “money talk”

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-12-09 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[nicksellen]

Date: 2019-12-09 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: All of us
Participants: Sandro, Nick, Bruno

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• Started implementing class generation for karmantra (Sandro)
• First payday call! (nick)
• Added performance timing stats (nick)
• a few offer-related fixes (nick)
• testing of offers, spreading the news (bruno)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• investigate https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1559 (nick)
• add new issue for adding group create button on the group preview overview page (nick)
• nick and sandro to have call with code walkthrough on Thursday 12:30 (nick, Sandro)
• roughly finish class generation for karmantra and maybe start this week with writing tests (Sandro)
• register Master Thesis officially (Sandro)
• write a forum post about offers feature being available (Bruno)

3. Discussion

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-12-16 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[nicksellen]

Date: 2019-12-16 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Nick
Participants: Sandro, Nick, Bruno, Tilmann, Janina

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• did lots of work on my other projects (nick)
• had a call with Sandro/Nick (nick/sandro)
• fiddled with the dashboards in grafana to show new performance data and offers (nick/Tilmann)
• ‘create new group’ link -> notification in Slack #karrot-world-admin (nick)
• fixed a bug with thread notifications (Tilmann)
• speed up conversation and thread list endpoint (Tilmann)
• wrote a post at community forum about offers (Bruno) New feature available! Offers
• started thinking about Karrot’s home page and wrote an issue about it (Bruno) https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1944
• Officially registered Master Thesis today (Sandro)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• Figure out how to implement mapping of triggers and roles (Sandro)
• Start a draft for the description and about page (Bruno)

3. Discussion

• foodsaving worldwide emails
  • not really getting answered right now
  • idea to setup an autoresponder to tell them to go to community.foodsaving.world #introductions
  • email addresses in question are (possibly):
    • *@foodsaving.world
    • foodsaving@yunity.org
    • international-foodsharing@foodsharing.network (maybe? also harder to setup autoresponder for…)
• January hack/meet-time? When? (nick)
  • tilmann/janina - whole of january,
  • sandro - 3rd week of january
  • bruno - talk to partner… bring franz or not? quite flexible, worst case a friday->monday block
  • nick - 3rd or 4th week
  • Kanthaus has a building week from 12th to 19th, might be a bit busier then: https://kanthaus.online/en/events/2020-01-12_wuppweek
  • maybe 18th - 26th (with last weekend as “main” weekend if only arriving there)
• somewhere to use nice icons? https://foodsharing-staedte.org/de/ideenkatalog (nick)

4. Next

Next meeting: 2019-12-23 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Tilmann

[tiltec]

Date: 2019-12-23 12:30 (UTC+1)
Facilitator: Tilmann
Participants: Bruno, Tilmann, Janina, Mika

1. Last week review

write down some words or a paragraph about stuff you did related to the project

• some ideas for a motto/slogan (Bruno) https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1944
• talked to Jiri about his group and activating offers (Bruno)
• deployed a small performance improvement (Tilmann)
• worked in responsive images (Tilmann)

2. Up this week

write down what you want to do for the project in the next days

• continue with responsive images, otherwise look into history filters again (Tilmann)

3. Discussion

• Hackweek?
  • 18th to 26th of January
• Do we need/want to keep Github?
  • https://github.com/yunity/karrot-frontend/issues/1043
  • Do we need to switch? This touches the big topic of ‘what to do make the world a better place?’… Our mission is not to avoid every dubious product or company, but to build software and promote sharing.
  • [Tilmann] Maybe we should write down in the Karrot readme the tradeoffs we are choosing, e.g. using proprietary, centralized platforms
  • [Bruno] It could also be in the “about” section on the website

4. Next

Next meeting: 2020-01-06 12:30 (UTC+1)
Next facilitator: Tilmann